2. I identify No. 3 on photograph as an S.S. man at Belsen who was in charge of Kitchen No. 1. I have now been told that his name is Ansgar Pichen. I was in a working party which had to carry containers of soup from Pichen's kitchen to the women's camp. On 13th April, 1945, I was waiting outside the kitchen for the containers when two male prisoners started to take some turnips from a pile outside the kitchen. Pichen was standing outside the kitchen and saw the men taking the turnips. He immediately pulled out his revolver and shot at them both, from a distance of about 25 metres. The two men fell to the ground and Pichen walked away. I saw the whole incident, including the shooting. This incident occurred about 12 noon and at about 4 o’clock that afternoon I was outside the kitchen when the Totenkommando appeared. The two bodies were still lying on the ground and I assisted the Totenkommando to put the bodies on a stretcher. They were both dead. One of them had been hit with a bullet at the back of the neck. The bullet which hit the other man had penetrated his body under the right shoulder-blade and had come out of his body through the left chest.